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DiscoDave
10-25-2004, 02:20 PM
35. Do I still need a 2D accelerator card with my Voodoo Graphics-based card?
Yes, Voodoo Graphics is a 3D-only accelerator. Voodoo Rush on the other hand is a 3D accelerator that is incorporated on a 2D video card - an additional 2D board is therefore not required for Voodoo Rush (http://www.active-hardware.com/english/hardinfo/voodoo2.htm#Q35)

3Dfx was a company which specialised in the manufacturing of 3D graphics cards and processors. In late 2000 they underwent one of the most high-profile demises in the history of the PC industry. They were formed in 1994, and two years later in 1996 released their Voodoo graphics chipset. This became popular because it offered more acceptable levels of performance than competing products (which performed no better, if not worse, than software rendering engines). It was notable because of its lack of 2D-display support; it functioned as an addon card to an existing 2D video card. In August 1997, 3Dfx released Voodoo Rush, which was basically a Voodoo chipset with a separate vendor's 2D chip on the same circuit board. Unfortunately it performed worse than the Voodoo, was complex to make and had poor quality 2D graphics. The result being that it was a flop in terms of sales. A few months later, the Voodoo Rush was dropped. In 1998 they released Voodoo's successor, the Voodoo 2. This was basically the same as Voodoo, but it had a second texturing unit installed and a higher clock-rate. It also had the capability to work in Scan-Line Interleave (SLI) mode, which involved connecting two boards together, thus (theoretically) doubling performance. A problem with the Voodoo 2 was the fact that it required 3 chips (the geometry unit and the 2 texturing units, all of which were on separate chips), whereas competing products such as the ATI Rage Pro and the Nvidia Riva 128 were all single-chip products even though they had an integrated 2D core. (http://www.4reference.net/encyclopedias/wikipedia/3Dfx.html)

I say accelerate because a 2D, 2/3D card, or integrated 2D chip for the desktop graphics is still required. This card actually takes over the processing of any 3D hardware on your current computer and replaces it. (http://www.epinions.com/content_117557530244)

The Voodoo2 began shipping in February of 1998. These cards work best on Pentium II class machines. The Voodoo2 is a 3D only card that is connected to the user's 2D card with a pass-through cable. (http://www.infohq.com/Computer/VideoCards.htm#Voodoo2)

...Voodoo2 has no inherent 2D functionality...Voodoo2 does not have any VGA hardware, so it cannot be used as the only display adapter in a system.[/quote] (This is from an official driver package from 3dfx). (http://www.falconfly.de/info/readme-v2-win2k-10000b.txt)

Last summer, the 3Dfx Voodoo2 chipset was the fastest of the fast. This 3D only chipset requires the use of a second video card to handle 2D graphics, like those in Windows for example. The 3D card then prevents the 2D card from processing 3D information and does it itself much faster. (http://www.ebabble.net/archives/1999_Reviews/The_Sheaf_February_99/the_sheaf_february_99.html)

[ Voodoo2 is a full-screen, 3d-only accelerator. It can make use of a pass-through cable to connect your 2D card to the Voodoo2's 3D, all to the same display. You can make use of a two input monitor and use the monitor's controls to select the Voodoo2's output, or that of the 2d controller. (http://www.hardwarecentral.com/hardwarecentral/tutorials/64/4/)

1998 is when 3DFX introduced their Voodoo2 video cards capable of doubling them in order to gain more performance. Their SLI technology is shown above. A ribbon cable was required to connect the two Voodoo2 video cards together, and an external pass-through cable was required as well as a regular 2D graphics card. (http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NjMzLDI=)

Daughter Card - A daughter card is a card or board that is dependent upon another card or board in order to work properly. An example of a 3D accelerator that is a referred to as a daughter card is 3dfx's Voodoo2. The Voodoo2 was dependent upon a separate 2D accelerator that is linked to via a pass-thru cable. This is because a Voodoo2 is 3D only, and inevitably needs a 2D card to run 2D. (http://www.tweak3d.net/3ddictionary/3ddictionaryD.shtml)

Voodoo2 is the next generation of Voodoo Graphics. It is a full-screen 3D only solution that will use an external pass-through cable to connect to your computers existing video card. (http://www.hardwarepage.nl/voodoo2faq.html)

The Voodoo2 was a 3D only accelerator and required that a 2D video card already be installed in the system (http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NjMz)

You have to have a 2D card but that's obvious. (http://www.phdweb.force9.co.uk/index2.html)

The most convincing 3D performance are achieved with a special 3D card like Orchid Righteous 3D and Voodoo2. They are specialized cards, only to be used for 3D presentations. You will need a regular video card besides for ordinary displaying. (http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~nsilva/disciplinas/ti/ti1998-1999/video/videoadapter.htm)

System Requirements: ...VGA display adapter... (http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=295&p=2)

Using a Voodoo 2 card requires a second card and an available PCI slot. The Voodoo 2 is a 3D acceleration only card which requires a separate 2D card for non-3D applications (such as Windows and DOS). (http://www.planetquake.com/features/techtips/techtips-7-7-99_a.shtml)



Come to daddy....

Dr. Deezee
10-25-2004, 02:43 PM
New levels in gayness
^

DiscoDave
10-25-2004, 02:54 PM
It's a good thing I'm gay, or I'd be all over you, ya plump chocolate muffin of beauty.

Dr. Deezee
10-25-2004, 03:01 PM
It's a good thing I'm gay, or I'd be all over you, ya plump chocolate muffin of beauty.
Oh snap, no you didn't.

Chuwawah
10-25-2004, 03:08 PM
I do what I want!

jinx666
10-25-2004, 05:36 PM
It's a good thing I'm gay, or I'd be all over you, ya plump chocolate muffin of beauty.

You will be paid in 100 equal installments.

Expunge
10-26-2004, 12:14 AM
To clear this up with you Jinx: I believe you owned the Voodoo Banshee videocard, which was the first videocard to integrate 3d acceleration with 2d monitor output on the same card ;)

DiscoDave
10-26-2004, 08:43 AM
You will be paid in 100 equal installments.
wtf...you can't give up that easily. :mad:

jinx666
10-26-2004, 03:13 PM
To clear this up with you Jinx: I believe you owned the Voodoo Banshee videocard, which was the first videocard to integrate 3d acceleration with 2d monitor output on the same card ;)

Lord Cizin is correct I had a voodoo banshee card... does that qualify as a voodoo 2? I believe there was a big 2 on the box...

DiscoDave
10-27-2004, 09:04 AM
No, totally different from a Voodoo2. Same manufacturer, but that's the only similarity.

jinx666
10-27-2004, 02:45 PM
No, totally different from a Voodoo2. Same manufacturer, but that's the only similarity.


I still contend that it was a voodoo 2, I will visit said card in said computer next week and be victorious!